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		<title>Comment on Join The Big Climate Connection! by peterxyz</title>
		<link>http://www.creationchallenge.org.uk/?p=1053&#038;cpage=1#comment-4009</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a large body of evidence that climate is changing. For those who want to follow up further, Paul Cook&#039;s website skepticalscience.com is a good resource. He lists the arguments advanced by those who are not convinced by the evidence for anthropogenic climate change and identifies and summarises the scientific literature (often with links) that provides a response.

Part of Paul&#039;s motivation is his christian faith (see the aricle on the Guardian Cif Green website (25 August). 

To ignore the evidence that our greenhouse gas emissions are affecting the climate of the planet in a way that will harm our neighbours would not be consistent with the command to love our neighbour.

We need to start by examining our own behaviour at the individual and church level but we need to move beyond that by calling for action at community, national and international levels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a large body of evidence that climate is changing. For those who want to follow up further, Paul Cook&#8217;s website skepticalscience.com is a good resource. He lists the arguments advanced by those who are not convinced by the evidence for anthropogenic climate change and identifies and summarises the scientific literature (often with links) that provides a response.</p>
<p>Part of Paul&#8217;s motivation is his christian faith (see the aricle on the Guardian Cif Green website (25 August). </p>
<p>To ignore the evidence that our greenhouse gas emissions are affecting the climate of the planet in a way that will harm our neighbours would not be consistent with the command to love our neighbour.</p>
<p>We need to start by examining our own behaviour at the individual and church level but we need to move beyond that by calling for action at community, national and international levels.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cheltenham Methodist Church installs solar roof by Mr Viv Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.creationchallenge.org.uk/?p=400&#038;cpage=1#comment-3543</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Viv Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The feature about the excellent work at Cheltenham MC mentions that there are a dozen or so churches leading the way nationwide.  Out of the thousands of churches of all denominations this is so poor.  But one reason for this is the lack of information and guidance being circulated by by churches centrally and by district councils.

I have been attempting to secure solar panels at The Deepings Church in South Lincs since the start of 2010.  I have gone through the phases of informing our congregation, gaining permission to proceed, finding out about installers, getting quotations, selecting the best, trying to secure funding, finding out and applying for grants, gaining planning permission (in a conservation area) and wading through inappropriate forms, informing neighbours, updating the congregation and constantly having to chase people who are less enthusiastic.  Applying for a National Lottery Community grant and for planning permission are minefields in themselves.

I have taken action in response to a letter from the Central Methodist Church (Dec. 2009) which stated that, &quot;Over the course of the following year we will be preparing recommendations for the Conference and coordinating work to enable local churches to take action&quot;.  So where is it?  What has been happening for the past nine months?  Why don&#039;t they just speak to Cheltenham and the others?  Even I could now save people a lot of time!  Time is of the essence.  People need guidance, some finance, and less bureaucracy NOW.

Come on, National Churches, Conferences and District Councils, let&#039;s have some real action!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The feature about the excellent work at Cheltenham MC mentions that there are a dozen or so churches leading the way nationwide.  Out of the thousands of churches of all denominations this is so poor.  But one reason for this is the lack of information and guidance being circulated by by churches centrally and by district councils.</p>
<p>I have been attempting to secure solar panels at The Deepings Church in South Lincs since the start of 2010.  I have gone through the phases of informing our congregation, gaining permission to proceed, finding out about installers, getting quotations, selecting the best, trying to secure funding, finding out and applying for grants, gaining planning permission (in a conservation area) and wading through inappropriate forms, informing neighbours, updating the congregation and constantly having to chase people who are less enthusiastic.  Applying for a National Lottery Community grant and for planning permission are minefields in themselves.</p>
<p>I have taken action in response to a letter from the Central Methodist Church (Dec. 2009) which stated that, &#8220;Over the course of the following year we will be preparing recommendations for the Conference and coordinating work to enable local churches to take action&#8221;.  So where is it?  What has been happening for the past nine months?  Why don&#8217;t they just speak to Cheltenham and the others?  Even I could now save people a lot of time!  Time is of the essence.  People need guidance, some finance, and less bureaucracy NOW.</p>
<p>Come on, National Churches, Conferences and District Councils, let&#8217;s have some real action!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Climate change campaigners can take heart by D Cage</title>
		<link>http://www.creationchallenge.org.uk/?p=1030&#038;cpage=1#comment-3302</link>
		<dc:creator>D Cage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 18:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of these three reviews were independent. Climate science has totally misrepresented the case as proven but refuses to use  tools that have been around for thirty or more years that show the climate change to be at best unlikely and at worst a cycle that is not only over but now moving in the other direction.
The UEA should stick to what is does best which is creative writing courses though one might argue that climate science qualifies.

Where are the Fourier analyses of  our supposedly climate changed times compared to those of a sample of twenty other equal duration periods?
Where are the results of feeding the data into market research trend analysis programs?
For that matter where is the data showing urbanisation figures for the areas around the temperature measuring stations and their distribution?
Climate science is about as accurate as social science if it is lucky and I am disappointed that the church I was associated with from childhood should become part of this criminal carelessness at best and fraud at worst.

As for illegally released I have no reason to believe it was not another bungle like the one that showed me how they hid flaws they knew about for certain. Climate scientists are not very good with computers surely is clear to everyone after Cimategate. To make the charge that it was illegally released rather than ineptly released without a shred of evidence shows how dishonest they really are. No trace of criminal activity was found in spite of large amouts of public money thrown at the supposed problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of these three reviews were independent. Climate science has totally misrepresented the case as proven but refuses to use  tools that have been around for thirty or more years that show the climate change to be at best unlikely and at worst a cycle that is not only over but now moving in the other direction.<br />
The UEA should stick to what is does best which is creative writing courses though one might argue that climate science qualifies.</p>
<p>Where are the Fourier analyses of  our supposedly climate changed times compared to those of a sample of twenty other equal duration periods?<br />
Where are the results of feeding the data into market research trend analysis programs?<br />
For that matter where is the data showing urbanisation figures for the areas around the temperature measuring stations and their distribution?<br />
Climate science is about as accurate as social science if it is lucky and I am disappointed that the church I was associated with from childhood should become part of this criminal carelessness at best and fraud at worst.</p>
<p>As for illegally released I have no reason to believe it was not another bungle like the one that showed me how they hid flaws they knew about for certain. Climate scientists are not very good with computers surely is clear to everyone after Cimategate. To make the charge that it was illegally released rather than ineptly released without a shred of evidence shows how dishonest they really are. No trace of criminal activity was found in spite of large amouts of public money thrown at the supposed problem.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cheltenham Methodist Church installs solar roof by D Cage</title>
		<link>http://www.creationchallenge.org.uk/?p=400&#038;cpage=1#comment-3300</link>
		<dc:creator>D Cage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 18:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh I forgot to add that if you read the small print the output is not guaranteed to be full for that period and after 10 years you are likely to get at best half yield.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I forgot to add that if you read the small print the output is not guaranteed to be full for that period and after 10 years you are likely to get at best half yield.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cheltenham Methodist Church installs solar roof by D Cage</title>
		<link>http://www.creationchallenge.org.uk/?p=400&#038;cpage=1#comment-3299</link>
		<dc:creator>D Cage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 17:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Confused is quite right. Remember the subsidies were diverted from other far more deserving causes. Unlike wind farms we can expect better and cheaper PV panels to be developed. Till then our cloudy and rainy weather results in a huge reduction in output which is never admitted but can be seen if anyone disbelieves me on public display in the National Trust Heelis building where a working range of 10 to 1   is quite common.
The economics make more sense when the PV panels are built in as part of the original roof design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Confused is quite right. Remember the subsidies were diverted from other far more deserving causes. Unlike wind farms we can expect better and cheaper PV panels to be developed. Till then our cloudy and rainy weather results in a huge reduction in output which is never admitted but can be seen if anyone disbelieves me on public display in the National Trust Heelis building where a working range of 10 to 1   is quite common.<br />
The economics make more sense when the PV panels are built in as part of the original roof design.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Join The Big Climate Connection! by D Cage</title>
		<link>http://www.creationchallenge.org.uk/?p=1053&#038;cpage=1#comment-3298</link>
		<dc:creator>D Cage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Aug 2010 17:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an engineer I had to do quite a lot of work involving extracting data from noisy signals. This is a basic requirement of proving that climate change is an aberration an not just a temporary and irrelevant blip in the cycle.
Engineering methods which are conservatively a  bare minimum of twenty years ahead of those of climate scientists say there is little or no evidence that the current climate is unusual. 
A second approach is that of trend analysis using market research programs. They show if anything a definite trend that the peak is over and we are heading the opposite direction which will present serious flooding problems in the near future.

Surely faith should be reserved for a belief in God not in the, by their own admission in the Climategate review, sloppy or incompetent rather than dishonest, climate scientists.
Yes we should care for the environment but without the CO2 religion we could be harvesting the plastic soup in the ocean circulation centres. We could burn rubbish using plasma furnaces and then use the solid waste bricks produced to create dual basin  tidal pools for clean energy. This current renewable energy project is not a no loss option it is the blind faith high cost and the people least able to afford it pay for it option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an engineer I had to do quite a lot of work involving extracting data from noisy signals. This is a basic requirement of proving that climate change is an aberration an not just a temporary and irrelevant blip in the cycle.<br />
Engineering methods which are conservatively a  bare minimum of twenty years ahead of those of climate scientists say there is little or no evidence that the current climate is unusual.<br />
A second approach is that of trend analysis using market research programs. They show if anything a definite trend that the peak is over and we are heading the opposite direction which will present serious flooding problems in the near future.</p>
<p>Surely faith should be reserved for a belief in God not in the, by their own admission in the Climategate review, sloppy or incompetent rather than dishonest, climate scientists.<br />
Yes we should care for the environment but without the CO2 religion we could be harvesting the plastic soup in the ocean circulation centres. We could burn rubbish using plasma furnaces and then use the solid waste bricks produced to create dual basin  tidal pools for clean energy. This current renewable energy project is not a no loss option it is the blind faith high cost and the people least able to afford it pay for it option.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cheltenham Methodist Church installs solar roof by Tracy</title>
		<link>http://www.creationchallenge.org.uk/?p=400&#038;cpage=1#comment-2709</link>
		<dc:creator>Tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have to get our roof replaced</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have to get our roof replaced</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cheltenham Methodist Church installs solar roof by Darryl Wenkrik</title>
		<link>http://www.creationchallenge.org.uk/?p=400&#038;cpage=1#comment-2238</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryl Wenkrik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 19:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Each post I have read is well written and to the point. I would also like to state, not only are the articles well written, but the lay-out of your site is excellent. I was able to navigate from article to article and find what I was looking for with ease. Keep up the great work you are doing, and I will be back many times in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Each post I have read is well written and to the point. I would also like to state, not only are the articles well written, but the lay-out of your site is excellent. I was able to navigate from article to article and find what I was looking for with ease. Keep up the great work you are doing, and I will be back many times in the future.</p>
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		<title>Comment on URC website &#8211; green short url by Mattias Joice</title>
		<link>http://www.creationchallenge.org.uk/?p=859&#038;cpage=1#comment-2211</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattias Joice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 12:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to thank you for this very insightful training, could you offer more info on the subject for people that don&#039;t know how to do so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to thank you for this very insightful training, could you offer more info on the subject for people that don&#8217;t know how to do so?</p>
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		<title>Comment on URC website &#8211; green short url by Catherine Solaro</title>
		<link>http://www.creationchallenge.org.uk/?p=859&#038;cpage=1#comment-2205</link>
		<dc:creator>Catherine Solaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jul 2010 21:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like to thank you from the bottom of my heart that you&#039;re not &quot;spamming&quot; - this post DOES HAVE WORTH! Everyone should be graced with the ability to access good websites like this one - thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like to thank you from the bottom of my heart that you&#8217;re not &#8220;spamming&#8221; &#8211; this post DOES HAVE WORTH! Everyone should be graced with the ability to access good websites like this one &#8211; thanks!</p>
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